European Wine Bloggers Conference

Vienna, Austria – October 22nd-24th, 2010

The Social Wine Brand

April 28th, 2009 · Comments · Planning

Wine Branding has been addressed many times, yet still causes confusion. After all, what is a brand in a market as fragmented as wine?

I do not think we have the time or inclination to address this whole issue in 1 weekend. However, we can consider a specific part of the overall brand experience in wine – what happens on the Social Web, the interactive internet space inhabited by the bloggers coming to the conference?

When we were trying to decide on a topic for this second European Wine Bloggers Conference, we wanted to find something relevant, contemporary, sufficiently meaningful to generate useful outcomes but also broad enough to apply to all bloggers, no matter what their role or interest was. A tough job! We settled on “The Future of the Social Wine Brand” for many reasons, most of which will be explored on this blog over the next few months in the build up to the conference. However, one aspect stands out in need of clarification. What do we, or in this case I, define as “The Social Wine Brand”?

Defining our terms

Here’s my first attempt, feel free to agree, disagree or better still, to refine and improve this description so that we may employ it consistently during our discussions:

The Social Wine Brand is the sum of all relationships created around a specific wine brand through Social Media channels

Note: I should mention that I was tempted, as with traditional marketing thinking, to include the phrase .. “for the purpose of increasing customer knowledge, loyalty and purchase” but one of the most important things to remember about social relationships is that they cannot be “for a purpose” because the brand owner in social media is the consumer and participant, not the winery.

Those who are new to social media and blogging may find these discussions a little confusing as they do require some knowledge and experience of the available tools. For those who are interested there will be a Workshop on Friday, October 30th (BEFORE the EWBC), designed to explain many of these tools and help wineries in particular learn how to interact with bloggers. We will post more about this soon, but if you are interested in this workshop, please contact us here.

A new branding conversation

social1We are not talking about the decisions a winery takes in traditional marketing areas such as packaging or distribution. These are independent of the “Social Brand” – relationships and conversations will happen whether the wine is a mass-market wine for the supermarkets, or an exclusive range for prestige outlets.

Consider a simple path: a winery creates a new ‘brand’ (decisions are taken on wine style, packaging, name, volume and price) and sets about ‘marketing’ and selling the wine. In the traditional process, the winery must find distributors, arrange delivery, agree promotions, publish materials and attend tastings. The wine gets pushed through the channels until it reaches a consumer who often purchases the wine based on little more than price and the alternatives available at that moment (on the shelf or wine list).

Now, that same wine, once it is “in the market” also starts a conversation. Consumers, the wine trade and maybe even the Media, begin to talk about the wine with the producer and each other. The winery’s new marketing task is to frame that discussion, make it interesting, and encourage it.

Before the use of Social Media became widespread, these conversation all took place out of reach of the producer, and therefore outside any influence, but with the arrival of public channels of communication these conversations can now be shared with the world. However, that conversation is now not under the control of the winery – it is not about printed brochures any more, but dynamic content such as blog posts, comments, tweets, status updates and videos.

If you were able to put all of these together, you’d have a picture of a wine’s “Social brand” – not a statement from the winery, but a collection of content created by everyone who comes into contact with the wine.

The discussion I believe we need to have at the EWBC is;

  • how do wineries “frame” the discussion? what channels do they use (blogs, twitter, facebook, youtube, etc.) and how do they interact with those who are talking about them?
  • what role do bloggers have in “spreading the word”? What rights and responsibilities do bloggers have in terms of wineries and consumers?
  • how do retailers engage with the conversation and convert these relationships into sales?

Ultimately, the winery who created the brand wants bloggers and other social media users to spread the (right) word, encourage even more people to talk and read about it and demand the wine, and thus convert that interest into new sales.

If only it were that simple!

I think that the EWBC is a great opportunity to explore the different roles in this new value chain, and to discuss the many benefits for wine of doing this correctly. What do you think?

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  • I have been wondering about that curious theme, “the social wine brand”, so it is good to get an explanation.

    Interestingly, this changes quite a lot what I thought the EWBC was (mainly) about.

    This, if I understand it correctly, places the EWBC squarely in the camp of the wineries and winemakers trying to use social media as a tool to sell their wines.

    The other angle is what I originally thought the EWBC intended to focus on: wine blogging from the perspective of the blogging wine journalist/writer (professional or not), or the “citizen journalist” with an interest in wine, or simply the amateur (=non-professional) wine lover wanting to share his passion in social media.

    I had thought of the EWBC as a meeting place for bloggers writing about wine out of passion and interest (not as a marketing tool); an occasion to discuss how best to do that using social media, exchange ideas, best practices etc etc. - generally, discussing things from a wine lover or wine writer or wine journalist perspective.

    I now understand, unless I misunderstand the post, that the conference is more focused on how wineries and wine producers can “use” social media to get their message out so that they sell their wines more effectively in the web 2.0 age. – A winery marketing conference in the Web 2.0 world. I’m not sure it really “[applies] to all bloggers, no matter what their role or interest was”, or perhaps I don’t see how.

    Indeed different, and perhaps a tad less interesting to me personally.
  • Per, thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. I will try to respond, reminding you that the post, and this reply, are MY point of view only.

    First, this conference is a collaborative effort, so my view is one amongst many. If participants agree on going in a different direction, then that is where we are likely to go.

    Second, I apologise if this is the impression you got. This is not intended to be just about wineries using social media, but it IS about a process that naturally STARTS with wineries - particularly when it comes to a conversation that involves wineries.

    I did not have the time to explore ALL options around the Social Wine Brand in one post. I realise that maybe I have not done enough to explain the role and opportunities for wine bloggers, but I promise to address that in the next instalment. I also have to look at wine retailing, but branding is a process that involves everyone, particularly now.

    I would take issue with one thing you say;
    "I had thought of the EWBC as a meeting place for bloggers writing about wine out of passion and interest (not as a marketing tool)"

    This is a conference for ALL bloggers. I have always maintained that wine blogging is not all about journalism or wine critique, it covers a broad range of interests, all the way up the chain from production, to retail and beyond to consumer feedback. Many of those attending will be both wine producers and retailers, so they too have things to learn from the discussion. One cannot ignore this, and there are lots of bloggers hoping to make a living out of the practice, so we must look at the value chain and where, therefore, there are monetisation opportunities.

    I think a conference that ONLY appealed to wine lovers and not to the practicalities of the broader wine business might be little more than a fun tasting event. If wine blogging is to be taken seriously, then we must be prepared to look beyond pure "passion" for wine, and look seriously at where we can add value.

    I hope this makes sense and still appeals to you. I'm more than happy to continue the process of trying to define, and clarify, the overall theme of the conference, and I'm still prepared to accept that I may need to change my own views.

    Thank you so much for getting so involved at this early stage.
  • Have not yet read your follow-up post but will do so probably not until next week. A bit overwhelmed at the moment... It's all about discussion and sharing views, isn't it, so I just gave you my spontaneous impression, hoping that it might further the on-lline conversation. And don't get me wrong - I never intended to say that I saw EWBC as only for "wine lovers" (taking that to mean people who write for fun and not as professionals). My view on this is very much a business view, have no doubts. Will be back.
    -P
  • Stefania Doria
    Hi there Robert,

    A very nice post, it was very interesting to read yr explanations, as I also had some doubts, but now everything'c clear!!
    I'd be very glad to join you in Lisbona (workshop as well) to listen at you all, as the subject you've choosen for this year is really an innovative one and related to my thesis as well (unfortunately postponed to 16th July), would it be possible to participate?
    Thks, enjoy yr day, bye Stefy:-))
  • Of course! From what I hear from Ryan the research you are doing for your thesis would be incredibly interesting for all of us.

    I think Per picked me up on a lack of clarity so i am attempting to address that now with a follow-up post looking at this from the perspective of wine writers. I hope it will be up this afternoon (after careful scrutiny from Ryan and Gabriella I hope)
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